Odd that in the discussion SS is supposed to Increase the weight of the bike. That's quality and durability! For what it's worth, Sheldon Brown swore by it (scroll down to "Breaking in a leather saddle"). Thanks again! I have a B66s on my Hercules, and LOVE it. They're very helpful and they will allow you to exchange your saddle for another model--or to receive a refund--within six months of your purchase.Another suggestion: If you like a particular model, buy a spare, if you can afford it. Advertiser Disclosure. And I've had the back pockets of pants do the same thing.I like your solution, Nina. The B66 has large springs that provide quite a bit of suspension. I do not place paid promotional content within blog posts. You'd better choose Classic Line if you don't know each line's characters. . Very useful - but having done a bit of research since I got my saddle, I'd be a bit careful about applying neatsfoot oil (or anything but proofide) to your saddle. Thank you for the informative post! SEE SLENDER GRIPS. Brooks Double Rail Clamp BYB105 . The flyer is great on london streets (potholes and cobbles and patchwork ads) where shock absorbtion without excessive bounce really comes into its own. I also neglected to acknowledge that Justine is right about the "S" road saddles being 7mm wider than the standard versions. Brooks England Brooks Saddles B17 Standard S Bicycle Saddle (Women's) 4.6 out of 5 stars (5) Total Ratings 5, $131.00 New. Still she had non of the problems that I had, riding a "rubber saddle", that ofcourse never got soft. Brooks England Brooks Bracket & Coil Assembly for Flyer, Flyer Special, B67 saddles. Durable Vegetable Tanned Leather. I put a spirit level on the saddle to get it level. We had racing bikes, we loved the countryside, we were going at a steady speed but were by far not real racers. Perhaps we are the minority, but I disagree that one should assume such a shape will necessarily be uncomfortable just by probability!! Go to next slide - Best Selling. Brooks availability tends to be cyclical: During the 90's, they were all but impossible to find in this country. Dire que la marque anglaise Brooks figure dans la légende du cyclisme est à peine exagéré. I'd also like for it to have the length of a men's saddle, but to have the down-turned front of the Brooks B-18 "Lady" saddle so I could wear skirts easily, altough the rails and width are more important. I think it's dangerous and I was especially freaked out by the saddle catching things when I first started cycling. to the blog author. Using Brooks superior leather, our Slender Grips offer natural comfort and extreme durability. Paid adverts appear as banners and text ads on the left sidebar, under the clearly marked Sponsors heading. Flyers and brochures are two such tools that allow a business to market their products or service in an easy manner. At the same time I resent it when "women's bikes" are automatically fitted with such saddles. In publication since 2009 Lovely Bicycle is an eclectic bicycling weblog featuring stories, reviews and miscellanea, with an emphasis on the classic and the handmade. kfg - The latest trend is for marketing geniuses to troll the internets for blogs and reviews, so my anti-butterfly cry may actually reach someone out there! The saddle is durable, dries quickly, causes little to no chaffing and is incredibly comfortable. I am also thinking more about "practical" cycling. .and where I could get replacments? Filigree, Thanks for your suggestion to try the B-33. It doesn't happen with swingier clothes but does with pencil minis and a-lines. It is worth pointing out that not all sprung Brooks saddles are sprung equally. If you're a heavy cyclist then you might need to pick those models from Unique Line in City range, because those models have 2 or 3 rails that tough enough for supporting weighty body.I chose Brooks for comfort. The B66S on my Pashley broke in after 2 weeks. "Well, if it comes to that some guys still do, or at least to do so free of harassment; and to ride in skirts as well. After 5 months the saddle has not yet broken in to be anywhere near as comfortable as the B67 on my Dutch bike, which broke in after a mere two weeks. Comments that disparage, bully, or intimidate, in content or in tone,will not be approved. This has answered many questions regarding on-going niggling back pain I've had over the years (i.e. In the early seventies, living in Amsterdam, we had a choice of well tarmacked specific cycling roads south and north Amsyerdam. Also riding shorts might help, not the lycra type (horrors!) These bits transform the Roadster, I don't know why they're not standard equipment...Thanks for the info! Isn't that what freedom and tolerance are all about? I expect mine to last for many thousands of miles. They put out an incredibly high-quality product. I know it looks excessively sprung, but I like the vintage aesthetic and a cushy ride is what I am looking for.My only issue in replacing the B-72 is that a new shiny saddle won't have the patina to match the DL1. The Flyer Special is a touring saddle with suspension springs and hand-hammered rivets perfect for adventure cycling, commuting and long-distance touring. That is very interesting the way you describe the different types of Brooks Saddle - I have just got the "Brompton" mens B17 Special saddle and it seems pretty good after the standard synthetic Brompton saddle. Unfortunately I got a flat while testing saddle adjustments so will continue later. I ride a Brooks B17 Classic on a daily basis. My experience parallels yours almost exactly. I'd like to ride to work without having to change clothes; also, sometimes I just want to look and feel dignified on a bike. I have to take issue with your comments about the Swallow! I have the flyer special and the b67 select - the select (raw oganic leather + proofide ) broke in much faster and v comfortable from day one especially for long trips. Depuis 1866, Brooks n'a cessé de produire des selles de vélo en cuir de qualité. The bike was immaculate but the seller had fitted a clapped out Brooks B66 saddle. Very informative and well thought out post on Brooks saddles. I also find it extremely comfortable. Those sprung saddles certainly look quite comfortable and I have seen them used on Bromptons. To get a good sense of the differences in dimensions, I've compiled the specs from. It's vinyl and padded. I find bubblegum-pink nauseating, and question the wisdom of believing that such an aesthetic is desirable for grown women who need a bicycle. So I picked B67 easily. Have a vent pleat put in, lined with some attractive fabric, and you will not have the problem of either catching yourself on the saddle or gouging everything with a zipper. Thanks for all the info on Brooks products. many cyclophiles I have met who own Swallows (and Swifts, and Team Professionals) swear by them, and find wider seats simply intolerable. ).I haven’t an issue with a saddle carrying weight. JimP - Henry Cutler (WorkCycles) had a short discussion with "Feddo" about a stainless steel version of his Fr8 some time ago. I also applied Neatsfoot oil underneath where my 'sit-bones' rest. Although on shorter rides it feels OK, on longer rides I have problems with my soft parts. Thank you for your comparison! Hi, did anyone here experienced issues about bleeding/staining of brooks-saddles? Hopefully my saddle bag will solve that possible issue.Bif - Indeed the B135 does touch on the Steampunk aesthetic. Thanks, Adrienne - Thanks for sharing the info about leather treatment! Découvrez l'offre Rails de selle Brooks B66, Conquest, Flyer, B72… pas cher sur Cdiscount. Last year I bought a slightly used Salsa Vaya whose owner had installed a basic B17. Thank you! kfg; Thanks for the "bike under the bed idea" unfortuately that area is full but I should be able to hang a relic in the shop. Does the B72 squeak less than the B66/67? I might take a coat to a tailor and have a zipper sewn into the rear. I think. "I fought long and hard for my right to ride a pink saddle with butterfly logos on it. Like many other commenters, I'm so grateful for these comparisons. It's happened to me with both coats and skirts. Velouria - I had figured that is was something along the lines of dissimilar "butt imprints" :) I would be curious to try out a new B72 to see how different it is to my former one. The other semi-related problem that I've had is that whenever I wear pants that have back pockets, the pocket always gets caught on the nose of the saddle whenever I hop up on it. I treat use proofhide on it at least once a week, or after it rains, i also have the cover which i use when the bike isnt used. One just cannot put Brooks away, because the manufacturer has been there for a long, long time ago, enduring and establishing its big name on the market by producing high-quality products from time to time. It does not yet include many early and mid-20th century saddle models. It's outrageously comfortable and I don't get any discomfort at all. From what I understand, the breaking in process is not meant to soften the saddle - the softer the saddle, the less time it will last - but to gradually stretch it to shape. It seems to take a bit longer to break in. Brooks has a name in Holland for good quality leather saddles, so we bought, without having any knowledge on the range of Brooks saddles and their different specifications a Brooks B66 saddle. I eventually when with the B66S and have no regrets. Contrary to that, in the case of my wife's Brooks B66 a saddle that fits her so well, this Brooks b66 saddle has proven over decades to serve on differnt bikes on very different roads.I feel I have to say that what I wrote is unusual, the rule is ofcourse: buy a saddle for what it is designed. I gues I got harder and more resitant to the pain and afther a few days lost part of the ever coming back unpleasant sensation. The kind I'm wearing too. Brooks England: The Eternal One. In retrospect, I would get a flyer for the Rivendell. To ensure a comfortable atmosphere for my readers and myself, comments are moderated. I replaced it with a B68s, and am much happier. They are otherwise deaf and blind. And the edges - including the sides and the nose - are rounded. It's the most comfortable thing ever. I've learned so much about bikes from your blog! The Co-Habitant has it on his Pashley and loves it. The B67 is slightly narrower and works perfectly or me. Would be a mess to ruin them. Glad this post is useful! Buy a Brooks, you won’t regret it. So I wonder if it was an aesthetic decision for them as much as or more than a budget one. Not head-down grinding and not sit-up-read-the-newspaper, or at least this is how I visualise it...). That is also the reason why buying "pre-treated" (translation: "pre-softened) saddles makes no sense. Or just wait for some callouses to develop? I can share my experience with B67. The saddle works wonderfully, except for longer rides I really wish I had springs. kfg: I am the sort of woman who believes that my right to ride a Brooks obligates me to defend the right of others (of whatever gender) to ride their pink saddles with butterfly logos. Comment choisir sa selle Brooks ? (I still can't sew worth a damn!) It softens the leather very slowly and really protects the colour and surface well. I can't thank you enough for this. "The thing to do is what old Citroen/Hupmobile afficionados do; find another unrestored one cheap somewhere and keep it as a parts donor; and you don't even have to keep it up on blocks on your front lawn. Despite its slack seat tube, the DL-1 is actually a much "sportier" bicycle than either the Gazelle or the Pashley, so perhaps that is the reason. I'm cycling to and from work as often as possible, an hour each way on a Gazelle Basic. .if anyone could direct me to a Vintage/urban bike mecca in Portland OR or Seattle . And the rounded edges make it easier to slide off the bicycle when dismounting - which is convenient when making frequent stops in the city. I've never had a really fancy sprung saddle with the shock absorber though. I found the B66 a little too wide and more suited to higher handlebar position. I love Brooks B67s but the price keeps escalating even though the exchange rate hasn't. Threespeeder - The B67S is the same width as the B67 non-S (210mm), so that won't help. I agree with your comments, saddle choice is very dependent on riding style and position. VEGETABLE TANNED LEATHER- Brooks uses only the finest European … My own view is that saddles narrower than B17 are not suitable for the majority of the non-pro, non-messenger population, and I stick to that despite variations in individual experience. I had a B72 on a Raleigh Sport and it was torture, bruising the end of my spine...until I raised the seat and gave myself the leg length that improved my entire ride. She swears by it.www.couchonwheels.com, thank you so much. You can imagine how happy I was to find that the Brooks was exquisitely comfortable from my first ride. In 1888, Brooks England began making leather saddles. So I think I will drop Brooks for now and try something else. Now it supper comfortable!Bag balm is perfect for this job, but don't let it stay on it for too long, try over night first, if not soften enough for you try little longer but make sure you wipe the excess off.My B67 don't need conditioning it felt great on its first ride.I hope this help! . Hmmmm.That would explain your reticence to discuss the vintage ones, Velouria!I too occasionally catch my back pocket on a saddle, but never on one of the Brooks models. But no matter who I spoke to about this, no other women seemed to be having this problem and I felt that I must be a special sort of klutz to be experiencing it. I’ve been cycling from my childhood. 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